The number of the springs shall be 3. Three is a magic number. Paperback Rocker , Feb 6, Stratoman10 , circles , AxemanVR and 1 other person like this. Messages: 1, Five 5 is the number for me. Gridlock , Feb 6, Age: 68 Messages: 3, Three for the win.
Perfect in all my Strats strung up with 9's. Age: 66 Messages: Messages: 2, Ruscio , Feb 6, Age: 46 Messages: Natural verby hardtail. Does it come through the amp?
No, but yes. Mute it and something's missing. You can hear it when it's not there. Know whatda mean? Tuner Sandwich , Feb 6, What's new New posts New media New media comments Latest activity. Media New media New comments Search media. Merch Shop. Members Current visitors. Log in Register. Search only containers.
Search titles only. Search Advanced search…. New posts. Search forums. Log in. Change style. Contact us. Close Menu. Click Here. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Strat - how many springs? Thread starter jcs Start date Aug 21, Messages 8, I usually employ 3 springs on my Strat style stuff using D'Addardio 10's.
I have this Japan Strat with a non locking Floyd no locking nut and wonder if i should try more springs than 3? With 10's, how many springs do you folks use?
What about 11's? GimmeShelter Member. Messages I put five on mine with 11s. I use Callaham hardware. Dan- Nah mate I'd had the guitar a year and was fed up with the D'Addario XL gauge 9's I had on it, 'cos they were getting a bit thin under my fingers.
That's why the rigmarole with the 10's was a bit of a surprise to me. Correct me if I've totally misunderstood everything but And you have no idea how many times I kept writing springs instead of strings and strings instead of springs! Nice try, but try again Re-read what i said carefully. Quote from: Dan Graves on July 17, , pm. It's all about "spring rate" as Wishbone alludes to with Hooke's law. I've looked up some typical values of string set tensions - For steel strings, The spring tension will be different from the string tension because of the 'lever arms' formed around the trem pivot screws by the string saddles above and the 'sustain block' below the the tremolo bridge plate.
The further you stretch it, the harder you have to pull. The ratio of pull to stretch is called the 'spring rate'. This is roughly constant up until where the spring gets permanently stretched then it is ruined. If you use several springs in parallel like on a tremolo the spring rates add up. A typical 'strat' tremolo spring the ones on my Yamaha Pacifica - 1. You can calculate the spring rate of yours from the measurements of the spring here. So to set my guitar up with '9s' and 2 springs, I need each spring to give half the needed spring tension or 9.
To do this, each spring needs to stretch be 4. Perhaps the 11s with 2 springs above, with a bit of tremolo movement might well stretch the springs permanently, and my guitar would be always going flat. Suppose you want to dive to a note which needs the sustain block to move by 1mm. Each spring will oppose this by 1.
The geometry of this changes as soon as the bridge comes up off the body, in favour of the strings. This will tend to exaggerate the differences in spring rate caused by different numbers of springs.
How far off the body you initially set the bridge will affect how this happens. If you adjust the spring claw to pull the trem down hard against the body, the extra tension is just between the bridge and the body, not the strings.
You need to push on the tremolo arm hard enough to overcome this tension before the tremolo will move and you start to get a change in pitch. I've probably confused everybody now If your guitar repeatedly goes flat and stays flat after bending, then you need another spring. This page is now getting bookmarked for me to read, reread and rereread until it sinks in. I'm waiting for Dan to shoot me down Andy.
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